Brownback: "This is a pro-life country"

    Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback spent some time with reporters today before speaking to owners and operators of the Bott Radio Network, based here.

    "I am pro-life," Brownback said, but added it would just be one part of a broader campaign for president.  He said he was not involved in the dispute over Phill Kline's appointment in Johnson County.

    Brownback said he supported much of the work of the Iraq Study Group, and said American troop posture in that country has to change by 2008.  He supports talks with Iran and Syria, and doesn't think Iran must get rid of nuclear weapons as a precondition for those talks.

   But he also said the ultimate solution in Iraq is a loose partion among Sunnis, Shiites, and Kurds.  Three regions, "one country," he said.

   Brownback says as his name recognition grows, so will fundraising for his campaign.  December isn't a good month to raise money, he told reporters.

Posted by Dave Helling

Comments

[jack]

So, Brownback has adopted one of the Democratic plans for Iraq. Joe Biden's to be precise. And he says the problem with Dems is they don't all have the same plan. What's wrong Sammy boy? Trying to sound rational? Us here in Kansas know you better than that!

[dog]

Copying from Joe Biden isn't it ironic?

Pro-life?? Does that mean he is against the death penalty?

[jpbikerfreak]

For the record, Sam Brownback does NOT speak for me. As far as I'm concerned, he can take his backward agenda and go have his Winston-Salem Witch hunts somewhere else. Geezee, is Kansas that far gone that we elect someone like this?

This is the guy who takes the senate floor and spends taxpayer time showing off pictures of his family to prove that gay marriage is bad. Seriously.... do we not have anything better to do?

Never mind the debt (Every family owes $500,000.00 in federal debt and unfunded obligations). Never mind the fact that we're bogged down in a botched invasion of a soveign nation, never mind that we're illegally torturing people and holding them without charging them for YEARS, oh I could go on.... but WHY? We know the most important thing is that we don't allow those gays to get married. Oh, and we don't allow any scientific research with embryonic stem cells. We'll just let grown people die instead. Yep, that makes sense.

I'd better just stop now.

[james]

I used to be pro life but I have changed my mind, I believe abortion prunes back liberals.

james, I bet you consider yourself a Christian, don't you?

[plattecohighschooler]

I'm pro life. I used to be pro death penalty, too, but that just seemed too light for me. Personally, I believe that we need a federal prison camp up in Northern Alaska. You see, I'm tired of hearing all these complaints about how lethal injection is "cruel and unusual". Really, if you want a humane death, put a bullet through a guy's temple. But then again, you want his mom to have a funeral.

Thus, the prison camp is the best option. Make it a facility focused on life. But make the inmates wish they were dead. They have really cold winters up there, put them in barracks with plywood walls.

[craig]

platte county,
I like you more every day.

[political moderate]

Jpbikerfreak,
It's important that we add to your list the fact that women do have the ability to make their own choices regarding their reproductive issues. We don't need the government making these decisions for them.
I swear, people that scream about cigarette bans being against their civil liberties, but turn around and say they are pro-life. I just don't understand their hypocracy. Jp, thanks for your comment...one of the few that made sense so far.

[locomotivebreath1901]

"Pro-life."

It sounds much better than "pro-abortion", doesn't it?

But as long as the women of this nation have a bloodlust for scraping their 'bio-accidents' out of their wombs, nothing will change.

Nice try, Mr. Brownback. Thanks for playing.

[james]

Christian? Since your asking, yes!

[plattecohighschooler]

"It's important that we add to your list the fact that women do have the ability to make their own choices regarding their reproductive issues. We don't need the government making these decisions for them."

Okay, fine, but they need to make the choice IN THE BEDROOM. It's not fair to punish the unborn for the poor decisions their mothers make. There is something horribly wrong with a society when a woman feels the need to kill her own child. Imagine what those murdered unborn might have done for us. Found cures for diseases. Helped achieve peace between nations. Found a way to feed the thousands of hungry in the world. All for not now.

Think about it this way: What if your mother wanted an abortion with you?

And I imagine platte considers himself a Christian as well. Why do I have a hard time believing Jesus would advocate sending prisoners to Alaska as punishment.

[plattecohighschooler]

Hey, you people sit here and criticize people who are both pro life and pro death penalty. I'm pro life and against the death penalty. Take it or leave it.

[Protractor]

I agree with you PM...NICE post, jpbikerfreak. I couldn't agree more with your follow-up, PM. Yes...I can smoke where I want and when I want but YOU can only marry who I say you can marry and all women regardless of personal religious belief have to abide by my belief regarding the moment when life begins when it comes to reproductive health.

If men were the ones who got pregnant, abortion would be legal up to the very moment labor pains kicked in. Actually, if I think that through...if men were the ones who got pregnant, the human species would have died out eons ago.

Praise women...and let them marry each other if they want. Who can blame them?

[Protractor]

I am not a Christian. Indeed, my Christian friends definitely consider me very much a heathen. But if you ask me, sending people off to the coldest northernmost remote outreaches of our huge continent sounds a bit commie...more that a little "gulagish"

On the other hand...I can think of at least one Texan I wouldn't mind sending to an American Gulag. He could drill for oil there...hahahahahaha

Oh to have such power!!

[Proud Liberal]

Since I was born pre-Roe v. Wade, if my Mom had wanted an abortion, she would have had to go to a back alley "doctor" and then she most likely would have died from a hemorrhage or an infection.

platteco, given current demographics and economics, an aborted fetus, if it was carried to term, would most likely suffer from hunger, disease and violence than find a cure for any of these problems.

"I'm pro life and against the death penalty."

That makes sense. It's the "i'm pro-life" and the pro death penalty crowd who are the hypocrites.

"What if your mother wanted an abortion with you?"

Totally bogus and baseless argument made by the "pro-life" crowd. Sort of along the lines of "why do you want America to lose the war on terror?" or "why do you hate America". You lose a lot of credibility in debates on subjects when you cross into that abyss.

[political moderate]

"I'm pro life and against the death penalty. Take it or leave it."

My sense of what Jesus would do require me to "leave it".

[craig]

"That makes sense. It's the "i'm pro-life" and the pro death penalty crowd who are the hypocrites. "

What about the pro-choice, anti-death penalty crowd, does that make them hypocrites too?

Just asking.

FYI, I am against abortion morally. But I am pretty sure that I am not so holier than thou that I should be allowed to legislate my morals. That is something that each individual needs to take up with their maker.

And PM, comparing smoking bans to the abortion issue is a little of stretch. You usually can make better comparisons than that.

[plattecohighschooler]

"platteco, given current demographics and economics, an aborted fetus, if it was carried to term, would most likely suffer from hunger, disease and violence than find a cure for any of these problems."

To make a statement like that is not just you failing to see the preciousness of human life, but the power of human potential. Just because a person is brought up into a bad situation doesn't mean they can't succeed.

But of course, you wouldn't realize this, because for the last 45 years the liberal/progressive movement in this country and the Democratic party have been filling the minds of the poor with the idea that they are too stupid and worthless to live without government support. In they eyes of these movements, these people are worth nothing until election time comes around, and all the sudden the left begins to humor the disadvantaged (particularly minorities) with false dreams of extensive income redistribution and sweeping social reforms.

You must remember it is the Republican Party that was for the end of slavery. Democrats were perfectly fine with the idea of blacks being inferior. In the 1860's, blacks were inslaved by the rich whites in the south. Now they are held captive on the plantation of the socialist welfare system.

[political moderate]

craig---Heck, you can't come up with a perfect analogy EVERY time. Geez, give me a little break.

I am also opposed to abortion. However, I recognize a few fundamentals. I believe God loves the unborn child and wants the best for it.
As importantly, (this is where I seperate from my pro-life brethren) I believe God equally loves the Mother and wants what is best for her.
I do not believe that God places either the Mother or the Child over the other (again a point of difference with the pro-life people).
There are times and situations when the Mother must decide what is best. God allows that free will decision to made by us because He/She loves us and trusts us.
Sometimes we fail. Christ came to save us from those sins. If we believe in the Christ event, we place our faith with God and not men to make the decisions and deal with the consequences.

Sorry for the Sunday School lesson. But the topic mandates a bit of theology.

[jack]

Apparently platte high schools teach an extremely selective version of history. Where were the Republicans in the 1950s and 1960s? Seems to me they were preaching "States Rights" and "Law And Order" as codes for keeping the southern blacks in their place. We even had one Republican get elected twice using his "southern strategy".

Which party is it that bought campaign adds with the white woman making goo goo eyes at the black candidate and saying "Call me"? Which party was the guy who calls people "macaca" and tries to distance himself from his jewish mother for political purposes?

Now, tell me. Which party was it whose leadership chose to risk the party itself falling apart by demanding an end to segregation and Jim Crow?

You'd think a "high school student" would know a little history.

[james]

A little history for jack

It was the southern Dems who were for states rights. Robert "sheets" Byrd was a Dem, so was Strom Thurmond
Al Gores dad voted against the civil rights bill, George Wallace was a Dem also.

[plattecohighschooler]

Every time someone posts on here, it's like they dig themselves deeper.

You say that God gives us free will to do what we want because HE loves us and HE trusts us. Hmmm. Trusts us. He TRUSTS us to make a decision that is in line with HIS teachings. Sure, HE wants the best for us... but the best for us is available through faith in HIM and HIS teachings only. A woman going and having an abortion is never the "best" for her. And since you're not a kindergardener, I don't think I'll have to tell you that it's not the "best" for the baby.

And one last thing... I have noticed a poster on here saying that if men could get pregnant, abortion would be legal up until birth pains. I'm a male. I wouldn't be for abortion even IF men could get pregnant.