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December 27, 2006

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jeetzwillagers

And complaints about who will handle the case Dems? See below.

(from AP article)

"Kline chose Wichita attorney Don McKinney, a Democrat and brother of House Minority Leader Dennis McKinney, D-Greensburg, as special prosecutor. Kline said he chose Don McKinney because he's a well-respected attorney and a Democrat."

MonkeyHawk

"This appointment of an independent special prosecutor will remove this investigation from a highly charged political process," Kline said...

Uh-huh.

Donald Arthur McKinney isn't part of any law practice, doesn't have an office (he claims his home as his office for tax purposes).

He calls himself "Don the Dingo, and has been an anti-choice fanatic for years. McKinney testified before Congress about how the evil Constitution wouldn't let Abti-Abortionists block cars, throw rocks at patients, or shoot doctors. The Dingo sought to get legislation that would make it easier for the antis to terrorize the public under the guise of freedom of speech.

His powers of persuasion are so impressive, the legislation was overwhelmingly voted down, even by so-called pro-life Congressmen.

jeetzwillagers

Monkey Hawk:

Never a dull moment with you.

MonkeyHawk

Here's Phill (the second L is for "Liar") Kline's so-called "independent" prosecutor, testifying:

http://www.fishnet.us/worship/200205/msg00054.html

jeetzwillagers

Monkeyhawk;

Before I visit that sight, is it a safe site that will not cause me to abort (computer term) so as to avoid my computer crashing?

Joe Medley

jeetzwillagers said

"Monkey Hawk:

Never a dull moment with you."

Do you have a refutation of any of the facts in Monkey Hawk's 2:14 posting, or are you just taking cheap shots because you don't have anything else?

jeetzwillagers

Joe,

If "never a dull moment" is a cheap shot, then things must be getting pretty hot these days.

Try and stay cool during this heat wave.

jenniferm

jeet, you forgot to mention your tool (or is it you are a tool), oh, never mind.......

jeetzwillagers

Jenniferm,

So it is ok from the "free speech" police if I use.....

Ratchet it up!

jenniferm

yes it is.

Mike Shaw

Is there anyone you would be happy with prosecuting the case, folks? Kline's the devil incarnate to you guys, so why aren't you jumping with glee that he's not on the case. I swear, if Kline appointed your own mother (presuming she had a law degree, of course) you'd find something to complain about.

It shouldn't matter who's prosecuting the case. If there was wrongdoing on behalf of Tiller the Killer, let him be punished. It's not as though a jury is going to rule against him simply because he's an abortion doctor - that's legal. If he aborted without just cause after the 22nd week - he's guilty. Simple as that. Stop whining. Even though you never gave Kline a snowball's chance, let this man do his job and try the case.

dingojoe

Big Deal. The special prosecutor can be shut down the first day Morrison takes office. Wonder what kind of paycheck this Wichita guy will get for 19 days of work?

dingojoe

Oops, that would be 11 days of work.

jeetzwillagers

Your right DJ. Morrison can shut down the Special Prosecutor and he probably will. What courageous expenditure of political capital that will take now that Clark has ruled. I can see the headlines in the Star.

In big bold print:

"Political Life On The Line: Morrison says "Make Love, Not War!


political moderate

It seems to me that:

1. Phill Kline is a bit of a nutcase.
2. The anti-abortion groups in Kansas have played Phill like a puppet.
3. Phill's use of the law is a bit sophomoric.
4. Roe v. Wade is under attack with Kline's barrage of attacks.
5. The cases in question have some extenuating circumstances that "may" place them outside the boundaries of Kansas laws on abortion.
6. There isn't a mechanism in Kansas law for judicial review of these type of cases before the abortion is performed. Certification must only come from two physicans.
7. Our society welcomes judicial oversight as a means of protecting itself from aggressive actions by professionals.
8. There is enough question regarding these particular cases that they should be scrutinized by a judicial review process.
9. If Dr. Tiller has violated the law, he should be sanctioned (punished).
10. Doing this does not jeopardize Roe v. Wade and the right of a woman to monitor and decide her own reproductive health (within accepted limits).

What's the fuss over the Special Proscutor?

jeetzwillagers

Poly Mod,

We have been in disagreement before. But this time my hat is off to you. I don't think anyone could say it any better than you just did.

(Tipping my hat to you)

jeetzwillagers

By the way, I'm referring to 4-10. As for 1-3, sometimes those are needed to "wake up" the powers that be from their "political nap."

jeetzwillagers

It use to be that sleeping on the job got you fired.

and as far as I can tell you cmarshalldavis are a grumpy cantankerous a-hole. Do you ever find anything good? besides bashing others that is.

mike

It's nice that cmarshalldavis can light into jenniferm alleging that she provides no comment of substance but he says nothing about jeetz whose only comment for days has been "getting hot" and "ratchet it up". DBs.

mike

What everyone is overlooking is that career prosecutors (those who have actually tried a case and understand the concept of burden of proof and what is necessary to prevail in a jury trial - unlike the newly appointed, overwhelmingly underqualified JoCo DA Kline) have reviewed the evidence in the abortion violation cases and have decided that A) no law was violated, or B) if the law was violated the defenses were strong enough to overcome any evidence sufficient to support a conviction.

mike

Finally, what the anti-'s seem to misunderstand is that they are being manipulated by the right. If these guys were really fighting against abortion, rather than posturing to obtain cheap political points, they would have actually accomplished something on the anti agenda. For example, if Kline actually wanted to accomplish something, instead of issuing a blanket subpoena he could have determined about 10 cases that were indicative of a crime and subpoenaed those records. If he had done that, the arguments of fishing expedition and witch hunt would not have had legs. The KS Supreme Court (almost exclusively appointed by Republican governors, by the way) would have been less inclined to think it was a fishing expedition, witch hunt and would have ruled quicker. This would have allowed Kline the limited access it took two years to get because he was lying (excuse me, "less than forthright"). Then, he could have obtained the records and prosecuted Tiller for the misdemeanors and obtained a conviction. And, get this, once he gets the first conviction, all following charges for the same violations are felonies. Meaning he could have put Tiller in jail and completely stopped his alleged illegal abortion practices.

Wait for it to sink in. You are being used.

political moderate

Mike-
Not disagreeing, but I missed that thread of info during the discussion.
Can you provide the particulars?

jenniferm

mike, cmarsh got his panties in a wad because I have him on my ignore radar (see Tuesday's open thread). So he goes and writes wonderful things about me on other threads. **sniff**sniff** I don't think he likes me **sniff**sniff**

I think jeetz does argue his point well, but I don't agree with him.

jeetzwillagers

Mike,

You must be privy to legal procedures not available in the State of Kansas. But I'm on to other adventures.

And hanging out my sign on this topic, it says....

Gone Fishing!

(I hear the crappie are good at Hillsdale)

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